Yesterday, in the latest episode of As the TikTok World Turns, Carson Beck’s ex was caught on camera “spilling the tea” as the young-un’s like to say, about the reason why she split with the former Georgia quarterback.
First, I could’ve made this a Roundtable about “how do you handle a breakup/divorce”, as this is pretty typical breakup/petty behavior from an ex-girlfriend. Let’s dish on all the bad, never mind we smattered our love story all over socials for all to see. We went from stars in our eyes to hate in our hearts, so there had to have been something the Cavinder twin saw in ole Carson. Maybe it was the tattoos…maybe it was $$$. I’m not one to judge, but that one line is what many around these parts had wondered about when it came to the drop off in production on offense amid drops, NIL hold-outs, and smiles on the sidelines.
“Literally no one likes him”.
I throw this out there to say that, out of all of Kirby’s QBs, Beck and probably JT Daniels had the best QB skill sets of them all, yet the most successful signal callers in the Smart era have been Fromm and Bennett, both of which were seen by the armchair coaches among us as having the least “talent” compared to others.
I can’t help but notice that Smart went and got another running back from the portal, and with Bowens having a good showing in the spring game and the addition of Bo Walker, it makes me wonder if Kirby isn’t pining for the days of Manball again. There’s something to be said for having a thinner roster and more games to play that would say moving to a clock-control mindset and getting wins – “ugly” or otherwise – while chewing up clock and getting your guys off the field would be a sound strategy.
There was a space during the early years of the Smart era where my belief was the following:
Kirby likes to control the clock, run death-march drives and keep the opposing offense off the field, to protect the defensive stats.
That might be because of my view that he is a defensive minded coach, but it’s also good strategy. If the offense isn’t on the field, the defense is better rested and ready to read and react to whatever they throw at you. Especially post-LSU Burrow, where teams went all-in on explosive playmakers, it was a wise decision to keep the Williams’ and Metchies of the world off the field and take less chances against an explosive offense.
Where I was misguided was that it wasn’t protecting stats for Smart’s sake, but it’s about winning football. And if there’s one thing I think that Kirby found in Bennett comparative to Fromm was a the X factor on offense: a running quarterback whose first instinct isn’t to run.
I think that might be what we see in 2025. With Beck, the offensive philosophy was placed squarely on the QB’s shoulders to win games with his arm, as we saw Beck’s mobility only really came into play in the Tennessee game and I can’t say in many other places. While we might think back to the receiving playmakers we had on the team in 2021 and 2022, don’t forget that the run game worked well, and that was even in 2022 when the primary ball carrier was Edwards, who wasn’t a Chubb or Michel but was a solid, functional running back that got the job done.
What was really dangerous in those offenses was Bennett, who could use his legs when everything else broke down and could not only run, but run for big gains. Beck wasn’t that guy…but Stockton could be, at least from his small sample size that we saw in the SECCG and against Notre Dame. For the concerns around his throwing movement and delivery time, which can be improved, he’s shown that he can tuck the ball and run, and can do it well. With the TE room beefed up and improved receivers abounding, we could see a movement back to the 2021 offenses where multiple 12 and 13 personnel sets could mean opposing defenses are having to pick their poison rather than loading up the box as we saw in 2024.
So today’s Roundtable has a wealth of topics to discuss:
- Will the mobile quarterback (assuming Stockton is QB1) and offensive upgrades result in a better offensive showing in 2025?
- Was Beck the problem all along…whether that’s the athlete or the NIL drama that surrounded him?
- Women, amirite?
- Would you rather have the 5-star quarterback throwing 30 times or more a game or the game manager QB that leans on the talent around him to get the wins, regardless what the final stat line reveals?
Have at it in the comments.
I’ll just say this Jp, results matter, not how strong your arm is.
Chemistry matters.
I want a 5 star QB who makes the players around him better. Jake was a 5 star by 1 of the services IIRC (if Jake had played in Monken’s offense or even Bobo’s offense, he lights it up). I don’t know if Joe Burrow was a 5 star or not (too lazy this morning to look it up), but he could make plays and made those around him better (having an OC in Joe Brady who got the best out of all the talent helped).
SBIV had great players around him and an OC that was the Dumbledore of OCs (as we’re seeing in the NFL).
I don’t know what happened to Beck, but in the words from someone who knows somebody who knows somebody, he developed a case of the yips.
Place a bit-o-pressure on the opposition o, make down and distance a UGA “D” football thing, pressure from special teams play, Take what the opposing d gives ya (playbook and crayons says UGA can)…nuff said…GO DAWGS!!
I was thinking the exact same thing about the social media post with the twins. Even if it is true about Beck, that is pretty lame to put that out there for the world to see and says a lot about them that they said all that on camera. She obviously had some sort of attraction and chemistry with him at some point.
Social media in the Classic City is one thing, SoFlo social is another deal, that whole club setting video looked like a third take for the gurls…
She runs her mouth about Beck. I think Carson got lucky.
It is a good time in his life to lose that bit##
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I’ll take great defense and a strong running game any day of the week.
So you’re saying there’s a chance…
JP, I can go with either. It’s not the stars that matter most, yes it helps to be rated high, but there are intangibles that come into play. I just never thought Beck had the leadership quality, to look the offensive guys in the eyes and say ” Let’s get our shit together and get this done”. Whether five star or three, you’ve got to have that moxie about you. He didn’t.
“It’s not you, it’s me” vs. “it’s definitely you.”
Ouch
You need an elite receiver to match a strong armed QB. Beck didn’t have that, Bennett did. A running game manager QB needs a power RB or two. Bennett had that plus the elite receivers. Stockton didn’t in the ND game and we’ll have to see if the kid from Illinois is that guy or if Branch is going to be truly elite. And a game manager QB / OC mindset needs a stifling D…that starts with the front 7 and especially the DL interior. These were all areas of relative weakness last year compared to what Bennett had. We’ve discussed last year ad nauseam. Kirby’s on the mother and I do think he wants to see the grind on both sides of the ball vs a high flying circus act offense that just depends on scoring 40+ to win.
If you want a really good offense start with a great defense. Then add generation running backs like 1,4 and 27. Mix in freshman QB who doesn’t yet know his limitations. Helps to have a fanbase capable of taking over any stadium willing to travel. That’s my assessment of why Fromm was so good his freshman season.
Stetson earned the team’s respect with years of hard work. Unlike us the fans the players believed he was their best option. Now surround him with great players it’s not difficult to understand the results.
The hard part is putting all the pieces together in a way to fit each season’s puzzle. Also having lots of get out of serious injuries to key players cards are required too. Then there’s the b10 way buy it or cheat.
Beck would be the odds on favorite for the #1 pick in the draft right now if Monken remained as OC. The fact he never passes blame to anyone else, even though some teammates and some coaches fully deserve blame, says a lot about Beck. For a QB to shrug it off and say nothing about all those dropped passes is astounding.
I’m glad he landed on his feet with a big payday. Ditching the slut/media whore girlfriend was a good move too.
I believe Gunner’s best QB attributes are his arm and his moxie..but not his legs. He isn’t a flashy cutter like Stetson..I’m worried he’s going to get hurt with a straight up fullback running style.
His leadership skills seem great as does his work and personal ethics..his team mates will honor that. Gunner is a QB that can be as good as his offensive line is at protecting him. If he’s running for his life we’re in trouble. (How many sacks did SB avoid with his quick feet?…and how many times did he race the DB’s for that square foot that splits the endzone with the one yard line and the sideline?)
Gunner’s skill set is closer to Beck’s than it is to Stetson’s…I’d say he’s closer to Jake Fromm. But he’s going to need a running game that’s better than what Carson had to work with.
100%
People still sleep on just how good SBIV was. By the time it was all said and done, dude was an ELITE college QB. A legit weapon with his legs — avoiding pressure, extending plays to make throws down field, running — not just for first downs, but taking it to the house, and had plenty of arm strength and accuracy + the mindset of a playmaker — not a game manager. Yes, he was surrounded by great players, but 2022 SBIV was that dude.
Agree with the points here. Gunner maybe a runner, but he’s not that fast. He tried to tuck it a few times against ND for what should have been solid gains and open up the offense, but he looked slower than some D-linemen.
I’d wager Jordan Davis and Gunner have the same 40 times. and that’s not a good thing if we have a mobile QB who doesn’t have the size of a Tebow or sCam
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https://youtu.be/AK7fEjrqabg?si=rZgZ1Fc_sEElHV73
Championship football has always been about winning the los. The most physical team wins. If your offensive and defensive lines are winning, your football team will win most of the time.
Where things get tricky is when your margins along the los shrink while the gap between skill players expands.
So I can’t beat Alabama’s 2012 team with high school players on the LOS tho I have Joe Burrows’ 2019 LSU skill players. But close the gap enough along the lines and superior skill players can win the game.
Sometimes offenses match up so well with your defense, you can’t stop them. You have to outscore them. Examples include: OSU vs UGA in the Peach or Texas a&m (2014) or Clemson (with Deshaun Watson) vs. bama.
So what’s the lesson? You want to be a physical grinding, dominating team because it eliminates 98% of your opposition. However, once in a while you’re going to need to sco, sco and sco some mo or you’re gonna lose.
If you tilt too far trying to be a team that posts 50 on everyone, you will start to get soft on both sides of the los. Alabama with Bryce Young and since has been a soft team. They can get up for us like they’re south carolina, but they’re soft and undisciplined week to week. They’ve become what CMR used to have. Talented but unreliable.
If I had my druthers, in college or high school ball, I would want a starting qb who is the 22nd best football player I start. I want the other 21 guys to play hard out of necessity. The second those guys start believing they can coast and win because some star qb is going to save their asses in the end, everything starts getting degraded.
But if that monster of a team faces an explosive offense that matches up upfront, you may take an “L.”
So, in the end, you do want a great qb and great wrs, but you can’t have them destroying the foundational structures of winning football.
I think Kirby gets that. He also gets how hard it is to do.
As far as Stockton? We’ll see. Last impressions weren’t great. You would think he could be Stetson with a little more power in his legs and a much stronger arm. But the tangibles Stet brought were rare and we know he went to work in the 2022 offseason. Does it mean the same to him? Is he made of special stuff?
If not, I suppose Bobo knows its his fault already.
Great analysis and I don’t understand why people aren’t pointing more to the offensive line of scrimmage. IMO, they underperformed as much as Beck and the WRs. Three OL are predicted to be drafted in rounds 2 and 3. If we couldn’t manball with that kind of OL in 2024, how can we manball in 2025. Maybe talent wasn’t the problem.
JT Daniels went 7-0 and left with the crickets chirping.
My interest for this season – was Beck the outlier? Mike Bobo has developed NUMEROUS dudes as QBs. But Beck had some of the best talent? But Beck ends up with Joe Cox/Hutson Mason (overachievers on Bobo’s watch) stats? It seems that Beck was at his innate talent ceiling but struggled to get off the being QB1 floor. Does Gunnar get with the program like previous QBs and improve? or has the days of Bobo developing QBs passed?
Reckon, we’ll find out.
Those twins have a butter face as in “I would….but her face.” I doubt Carson is losing sleep over it. Anyway, I can see us returning to manball in theory except our O-line can’t seem to run block lately. Hopefully it’s more of a read option- RPO with Gunner which could be tough to defend. That’s what Bobo probably wanted him for all along.
was that Shaq diesel at the beginning of the vid?
Comments.
Will the mobile quarterback (assuming Stockton is QB1) and offensive upgrades result in a better offensive showing in 2025? YES.
Was Beck the problem all along…whether that’s the athlete or the NIL drama that surrounded him? YES.
Women, amirite? YES.
Would you rather have the 5-star quarterback throwing 30 times or more a game or the game manager QB that leans on the talent around him to get the wins, regardless what the final stat line reveals? NO. A QB who can elevate everyone is preferable.
The offense will be better. It has to be, because I don’t think the defense will be any better and maybe a little less stout. Walker and Mykel were players hard to replace.
Beck was definitely a big problem with team chemistry. The players and Kirby were remarkable to get past that to get to the playoffs.
Blaming women is short-sighted. We all get to make choices.
As far as the last: Just win baby whomever you are.
A healthy Mykel & Jalon are very hard to replace. We didn’t have that much last year. Mykel was never healthy after the cheap Clemson hit. Jalon wasn’t 100% much of the season. I’m hoping for better health, which we are certainly due, and a better overall defense this season. We better have a much improved offense or it will be a season long struggle.
If Jalon wasn’t 100% and won the Butkus Award, someone is going to be very happy when they select him tomorrow night.
If Mykel had been healthy for all 3 years, he may have ended up as this year’s Travon Walker.
Can we please focus on Georgia football topics (or occasionally other sports as deserved) and not find a reason to talk shit about the personal relationships of 22 year olds? It somehow feels…….sleazy. He gone and apparently #shegone. Best of luck to a dude who won us 24 games and an SEC title.