Note to all: this is not a Playpen post.
Shot:
Chaser, worth a full listen
Mental health issues? Forget about concussions and injuries, we’re going to argue that a CBA is necessary to prevent mental health issues.
Note they referenced the 1%ers. Not all athletes are making Carson Beck money.. Most are making, if anything, what would amount to a entry level job wage for playing what amounts to a semi-pro sport. It’s the difference between a minor and major league contract, and we all know not all major-league contracts are the same. Acuna makes more the Albies, for obvious reasons.
But what it sounds like is that we’re posturing for collective bargaining and settling that it needs to be done because “won’t someone think of the children”.
Blow hard bullshit, if you ask me. Bilas had it right when he said the NCAA rules were changed when the pro rules changed and conferences had TV rights in 1984. It became a profit-margin endeavor, not a component of athlete benefits.
Interesting, if 1984 is the date, how that impacted Georgia football at the time. Dooley left five years later. Enter Kirby, and he wins back to back Nattys, and they shift the rules.
We’ll never quit paying for Jan Kemp, will we?
Discuss.
An EO can’t fix this and probably won’t hold up in court anyway. If only we could believe the UGA/OU lawsuit was for the children but it wasn’t. “Protecting amateurism” may have been sincere at one time but once we decided to put professionals in the Olympics to protect our amateurs (?) then the entire concept of amateurism came crashing down. All that was left was the obscene money grab by the adults before the athletes caught on to how they were being used. There is no fix, there is no going back. It’s truly all about the money now and the only solutions to move forward are to adopt completely regulated free-market professional solutions. There is no definition of an amateur except for those willing to compete for no compensation. Not a lot of that left in the major sports because of the money available.
Your University of Georgia Bulldogs…presented by Home Depot and Coca-Cola in the North American football league brought to you by Amazon.
Amateurism is unpossible!
https://apnews.com/article/college-athletes-pay-ivy-league-6153eedf1e4644d3d4f6dd004a666f00
Top athletes are continually passing up NIL to get that Yale education. Or…it’s a consumer’s market. If you want to watch amateurs tune into the Ivy League channel. Either way we ain’t going back.
There’s a gap between saying:
1: I don’t like amateurism
And
2: Amateurism is not possible today
Pointing out that #2 is bullshit does not make me a Princeton fan anymore than pointing out that the Earth is round would make me an astrophysicist.
The idea of 5 years of eligibility to play 5 and 1 free transfer plus a grad transfer (if within the 5 years) makes sense to me. Whether a liberal or conservative puts forth the idea doesn’t matter. The athletes have made it clear. They don’t want to unionize. The schools have made it clear. No one at this point is against NIL payments, but the schools (and coaches) want some level of roster certainty. They also don’t want a collective bargaining relationship unless it’s the only way to get to stability around movement.
I don’t think an executive order is the appropriate way to make this happen (once again, regardless of who is issuing the order).
It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Restrict transfers and see how quickly the whole union attitude thingy changes.
The players don’t want a union today because they don’t need one. They have an absolute free market to profit as much as they can, wherever they can.
If a bill similar to Tuberville’s is enacted, there won’t be a union because they won’t have the leverage. 5 years and 1 free transfer will be the law of the land.
By the way, I don’t think either of these is going to be passed or enforced.
An antitrust exemption is never going to pass without giving players substantial benefits and rights which folks like Tuberville do not want.
In fairness, the opposition to Tubs probably wants too much, but from their perspective, why compromise? The players have the game by the balls. Why let them go?
An executive order is a temporary remedy and likely to be challenged in court somewhere, by somebody. That said, my questions are this: what if anything will change and more importantly, who benefits?
The executive order is not a remedy in any fashion. A US president has no power to order private associations to stop taking actions that are lawful. Joe Fan in section 14 has the same power to order changes to transfer rules.
Whether it’s challenged in court or not, at least someone is doing something to move the needle hopefully in the right direction.
This. There is now a finer focus on the issue and someone, the president in this case, is bringing it to a discussion that has to be had and addressed.
The 2 senators from Vermont are so engaged now. And Alaska. And Montana. And Idaho. And New Hampshire. And Rhode Island. And New Mexico.
And obviously the entire Midwest-fandom is ready to shake things up now. They’re getting in line to go back to when they couldn’t win shit!
The truth of the matter is that about 4 states in the entire country which hold a majority of voters who could even give a fuck about this issue much less want a return to 2018.
If given the chance the vast majority of American voters would tell the SEC coaches to gf themselves. They made their bed, make much bank in the current model and can move in midseason themselves.
“Fuck your control” is what they would say.
And they’d be right.
Who’s gonna get the American voter on the side of “roster control?” Lane Kiffin?
Everyone is free to delude themselves now just as everyone did when they insisted that NIL would be no biggie, but that’s all they are: delusions.
There is no political will to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Its a new world. I suggest getting comfortable.
You really think that only NOW there is a focus on the issue? I get football fans scrolling through posts and articles that are not about on the field matters but there has been a ton of discussion including the NCAA being authorized by its member schools to settle an anti-trust case and separately various senators and congressmen introducing federal legislation.
I get you like Trump but it is a North Korea like comment to say that only our fearless leader has been wise enough to understand the problem and focus on a solution.
Please indulge me. How, exactly, are college sports on the wrong direction right now?
Too much freedom and compensation for the entertainers has ruined it and stuff.
UGA and Oklahoma really F ed up by suing to get more games on TV. I’d happily trade no TV for all the NIL transfer 7 year eligibility BS to go away. 1:30 kickoffs, no TV timeouts and games over by 4:30. If we only had another Munson to call the away games on radio…..
Everything had been done to enrich the adults. All the complaining seems to have come once the stream of benefits began to run to the players.
A tale as old as time itself.
Sign me up. I am all in on this!👍🏈
Like it or not I doubt any EA actually stands up to the contestants in CFB’s wheel of fortune money grab.