68 thoughts on “Playpen 11.6.24

      • The only thing rigged was THE COUP that occurred to get Kamala on the ballot….

          • Educate yourself…nobody wants to take the time to spoon feed you truth while you piss on everything they say…

          • I have. A coup doesn’t mean a resignation or not seeking reelection. No one accused Barry Goldwater of initiating a coup when explaining to Nixon that he lacked the votes to survive impeachment and he resigned. There is a simple reason for that. Suggesting that was a coup is inconsistent with the English language. Same as to LBJ in 1968. Sorry if that reality feels like a night in a Moscow hotel with your betrothed. Wasn’t what was intended.

        • No demeaning, diminishing or undermining our American institutions for personal gain? Just acceptance of the results and a peaceful transition of power? Normalcy? Tradition?

          Little wonder why conservatives can’t stand him.

          • Who is second in the amount of time between the calling of an election result and a concession phone call and/or concession speech? First place is at 4 years. Very interested in who you have in 2nd.

            On firsts:

            1) first time fake electors are being prosecuted in any state
            2) first time VP asked to violate constitution
            3) first political rally on day of certification in Congress
            4) first it was antifa and the fbi then it was a day of love.
            5) first impeachment over post-election conduct.

          • Yeah cause Biden excelled at so many other things during his tenure, we only hate him for that reason.

          • Ikr? Had Biden used his power on January 6th, 2017, in the same manner as Trump asked Pence to four years later, and refused to certify the 2016 Election Biden would have been a national hero, amirite?

  1. I texted my family at about 12:15am with this;
    “Harris doesn’t have a path to winning Georgia (sic) because there just aren’t enough votes left out there. Georgia will be called for Trump soon and then Pennsylvania will follow shortly. Trum will win. My prediction is Trump 312 electoral Harris 226 electoral.” Turns out I was, or will be right if the remaining states that are all leaning red are in (Ak, Ak, Mi & Wi)
    Leaving specific policies out of the equation, I think Harris made two massively huge errors:
    1) She targeted primarily metro and large population centers. Metro populations will always vote blue, and she missed that fact. Besides, I don’t think she was ever going to convert rural America anyway. But Trump went to middle & rural America. These are the people sick and tired of the off the map liberalism of the far and unreasonable left of Hollywood and the mainstream media. Trump knew that rural and maybe suburban America for the most part is still relatively a balanced, fair thinking populace. It paid off bigger than I think even he imagined.
    2) Interviews. She absolutely bombed it with interviews. Trump went to alternatives such as Joe Rogan. Trump understands that the vast majority of Americans loathe, detest and mistrust the mainstream media and the toxicity it produces. I believe these two core areas of strategy created a ripple effect on the down ballot and produced the flip of the upper chamber and will allow the house to stay red as well.
    In my 61 years, I can’t recall seeing one party in control of every branch of government: stunning. Me being very conservative, I don’t personally believe a single party having this much control may not necessarily a good thing for the country and would maybe rather see at least one branch from the opposite side. But I trust the leaders will make sound choices for the country as a whole.
    All of that said, the next 2-3 years will be interesting to watch.
    Now, take all of this information and $4.59 and you can get a Happy Meal, cause that’s what my thoughts are worth.

    • Unless the Rs try to do something stupid in the Senate (i.e., abolish the filibuster), you still have government that’s grinding. Where last night makes a huge difference is appointments, because at this point, the liberal R senators (Collins/Murkowski) will not be able to hold out their votes. The President-Elect should be able to get every cabinet member and judge (Justice Thomas and possibly Alito retire now) he nominates through the Senate, and the administrative/regulatory state. There’s nothing the Democrats can do but watch as the Rs undo regulation and executive orders.

      Also, with both houses, fiscal policy can be passed through budget reconciliation.

      • Serious question: how much austerity do you really expect to be delivered two years hence?

        Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the people that austerity would impact the most are now their own voters. I’ve seen this movie a few times and the spending cuts never, ever, ever come. Even more political costs now than before.

        Why should we expect any different than the typical more spending and less tax collecting? Along with brand new bogeymen and excuses of course.

    • One party has had control of WH, House and Senate quite a bit in your lifetime. Carter, Clinton, W, Obama, Trump and Biden have all had 2 to 4 years of that.

      The various talking head autopsies on this will pick it apart in a lot of various ways. For me the story was always going to be turnout. I’ll wait to see the final numbers, but it appears to me that rates of participation were way down on the dem side from 2020. Whether that was aggravated by some of the factors you noted or not is unknown. What I knew was that his voters would by and large show up and so you had to hit a number well above 75 million.

      IMHO this was never going to be an election about undecideds or independents, but about getting your people to the polls. Figure out how to replicate 2020 in that regard and you win. You don’t and you lose.

      Trusting in this particular set of leaders is a bit of a leap for me. Not a lot of sane, rational or tested (successfully) ideas among them. The only possible silver lining would be if they entered a suicide pact, pulled the pin on the grenade and delivered the austerity they’ve talked about but haven’t implemented for nearly my entire lifetime. If we have a fair and free election in 4 years AND the 35.7 trillion deficit isn’t higher, we will have dodged a bullet. I’m hopeful on the first, but cautious. As to the second, well, I wouldn’t bet on it.

  2. Elon Musk buying Twitter had a big influence on this election. It had turned into an echo chamber of leftist views and their moderators were shadow banning everything from the right. This is a proven fact, and it was about the most un-American thing ever.

  3. I expect politics as usual.

    Nothing but career politicians looking out for themselves and crapping on average citizens and telling us how good we have it.

  4. Special thanks to the State of Georgia and all the men with testicles who broke thru the CNN programming to save our Country from the communist scum that occupied every facet of our justice department and deep state bureaucracy; and without whom this Victory might not have been possible…special thanks to the whiney ass liberals who continue to show us why this election was so important

  5. One thing I find intriguing is how fewer voters turned out for the vote. Dems had 81M for Biden in 2020. Only ~67M for Harris in 2024. Trump had roughly the same each election. What explains that?

      • Not true. I think the count was both in the mid 60’s in 2016, then 82 million to 75 million.

        Last I looked Trump was a little under 2020 and Harris was at around what Clinton drew 8 years ago.

          • I doubt the numbers change enough to modify the conclusion. If someone can point me to something Harris and Clinton share and Biden does not, that isn’t related to chromosomes, I’ll listen, but sexism from voters of both sexes, seems to have been the story.

          • I thinking chalking it up to sexism is an oversimplification, and won’t help the Dems if they keep using that as an excuse. I think the actual candidate and their policies mattered for both Clinton and Harris.

          • So tell me what Biden brought to the electorate that neither woman did in nearly equal parts?

            I said a few weeks before the election that I thought Trump would lose to any average white man. (Btw, Biden had deteriorated past “average.”) I’m having a hard time thinking I was wrong.

          • I think Biden was an outlier event, so it’s hard to use that as a true baseline. I think the Dems picked the wrong woman’s issue as most States have passed abortion laws that align with their citizens leanings toward it, so it wasn’t as prevalent a National issue as they thought it would be. The woman’s issue that has support on both sides is men in women’s spaces, but the Dems didn’t do anything to really address that.

            Harris wasn’t some unknown and I do think the policies she’s attached to under the Biden administration hurt her chances and she didn’t provide enough new policy direction to improve her chances.

          • Chief,

            What policies did Biden get 82 million votes on that Harris did not and therefore landed 13 million votes short of the mark on? As far as I can tell the last 3 nominees mainly ran as “not trump” with far different results in numbers of votes for that candidate. The opponent’s numbers improved vs. Biden.

            The electorate is equally divided and the game is turnout. Only one of the last three won that game.

            I still haven’t seen one thing that causes me to believe there was a substantive difference between the last three democratic nominees.

            On substantive merit, arguably the worst of the three performed the best on election day.

    • It would appear that pretty much the same number of people showed up for Harris as Hillary.

      If you go 66 million for Hillary to 82 million for Biden and back to 67 million for Harris, the most logical conclusion is that about 1/6th of the pool of possible “not Trump” voters won’t come out and vote for a woman to be president.

        • Because its the truth I will. Thanks.

          What do you keep telling yourself about the fact that Trump got less votes this time than in a “rigged” election?

      • Maybe the pandemic had something to do with it? Trump botched the COVID response and maybe that motivated more people to turn out last time.

        • The difference is too dramatic to leave it to that alone imho.

          Wasn’t 1/6/21 “botched?”

          • I 100% agree with you there. I can’t see how anyone could vote for Trump after January 6th, and I wouldn’t have voted for him even without that, but apparently we’re in the minority.

          • Tell me you are still getting your “news” from CNN and the AJC… without telling me where you get your news …Hahahahahahahahah!!!
            Heres one you will like …
            Trumps Pronouns are: “I’m / Your Fucking President!!!

  6. It is time to face the fact that America is stupid, bigoted, and cruel.

    “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.” (Thomas Jefferson).

    • “If God meant to interfere in the degeneracy of mankind would he not have done so by now?”

    • The Free Press has a good article about why your first statement is exactly the reason why Trump won, and not in the sense that they are stupid, bigoted, and cruel, but in spite of it.

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