73 thoughts on “Playpen 7.2.25”

  1. Since he’s a democrat you may support him, but this guy makes the squad members look like Cinderellas.

    • Everyone is welcome to go wherever with it, but I was focused and responding to the proposed raising taxes on “whiter neighborhoods.”

      I probably would agree on a lot with the NYC mayoral nominee. On that particular messaging, I am frankly appalled.

    • The answer to extremism isn’t extremism the other way. What happened to moderates that work with both parties?

      • The math tells campaigns that higher conversion rates come from tapping into folks’ worst instincts.

        We will always get what we want from politicians. What needs to change is us.

      • No such thing anymore Russ… standing in the middle of the road gets you hit from both directions…
        You are either a Patriot or a Commie Pinko asshole like Derek pick a side and hold on…

        • Always trust the Russian intel agents. Luckily they are listening.

  2. We all know that wealthy whites are the most oppressed demographic, and their struggle is only going to get worse. Since the SCOTUS has made it so the President can rule by EO so long as the congress remains spineless, it’s only a matter of time before Pres. AOC starts sending billionaires to Alligator Alcatraz.

    • Still, there no excuse to use that messaging. It’s unnecessary, counterproductive, harmful and just plain wrong.

      There isn’t a lot of confusion about the demographics of the wealthier neighborhoods in NYC. No good reason to tag “wealthier” with “whiter.”

      I can think of some bad reasons to do it tho.

      • We are all aware that Democrats are the absolute worst at messaging. Thats why they struggle so badly at elections and why we have who we have in the WH.

        • This one isn’t bad because its ineffective. Its bad because its wrong. Usually their messaging is bad because it doesn’t work.

          • I think he is just being honest. He is saying what everyone else is afraid to say.

          • That the message from democrat communist…thats always been the message from your side, you just don’t like that he said it outloud and you and the other liberal lying bedwetters can’t spin it and gaslight old democrats into believing he said something else..

    • President AOC ain’t gonna happen, but she would be an improvement on the current situation.

  3. this guy does not like jews and wishes to “seize the means of production”… good luck NYC.

  4. I am super excited to see how this latest stab at wealth distribution works out.

    • Social Security and Medicaid are “redistributive” and no one will touch them.

      In 1785 Georgia purchased land to open a college to teach young men to farm more effectively because it was seen as economically beneficial to the state to have good farmers rather than shitty ones.

      That was a redistributive policy.

      Rather then the lazy argument that all efforts at investment in the populace is either wrong or inefficient, why can’t we focus on what tax payers ought or ought not invest in? You know, lets try and be an informed citizenry and see how that works out.

      • There’s a difference between a redistributive policy in 1785 purchasing land to create a University (before the Constitution was even ratified) and wanting to institute selective taxation on others. First they came for the billionaires…

          • First, the land was granted so we both erred in describing it as a purchase. However, it was state property directed to educate farmers in better practices and establish a football program the envy of all suckers and fools; I argue it was an effort to promote the general welfare at the state level. There are codified laws and taxes that can fit the redistributive policy example as you pointed out – Social Security and Medicaid. Second. No citizens were singled out from others to be taxed differently than others to make UGA happen. While you can argue that this taxation is being done at the municipal level in NYC (and doesn’t really affect us – except we might not receive the same SALT deductions in our 16th Amendment ratified Federal income tax returns as a New Yorker) it certainly does not secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity for citizens of NYC equally if tax burdens get determined on locations and demographics.

        • How were the buildings and professors funded?

          Was tuition set at a “market rate” or was it subsidized by state dollars?

      • Where’s my eye roll emoji…
        What makes you think I’m uninformed?

        • I didn’t say you were uninformed. I said you presented a lazy argument which doesn’t enlighten anyone.

          You might be able to present a better argument that reaches the same conclusion, but the idea that taxation is either theft or that all spending can be reduced to “redistributive” and thus bad because the word sounds shady is lazy.

          It reminds we of people making an “argument” that Ukraine is a “proxy war.”

          Yeah, and? I mean so the fuck what?

          So is Israel vs Iran. Calling something a “proxy war” doesn’t present much of an argument. Not does calling a policy redistributive. The issues go much deeper than that.

          Are roads redistributive?

          Is policing redistributive?

          Are courts? Prisons? Universities? Public hospitals? Public nursing homes?

          Yes, every gd one of them.

          You want to shut them all down? I doubt it.

          I think at heart you’re just another Marxist who wants 911 services.

          • LMAO. That’s a first. I’ve been called a lot of things but never a Marxist.

          • Thanks for the thoughtful response. My original comment was toward the pandering clown show that is our politiscape. If Mahmani thinks for a second New York’s elite will let him get away with anything that doesn’t benefit them he’s a bigger dumbass than I already think he is. He’ll be lucky if they don’t kill him. Who does he think owns the buildings in the “brown” neighborhoods?

    • I get it Uncle Got…the modern socialists hyper focus on the folks with money (in NYC) and those of us who lived thru and remember the Cold War recall how well that worked in the former Soviet Union…we cite breadlines, shitty yugo cars, people getting shot trying to scale walls in east Berlin as to why we think socialism didn’t work and ultimately failed and don’t forget Cuba where wealth was redistributed, that destroyed what once was a vibrant Caribbean oasis. Nope, big dummies like me and you get castigated for pointing out the obvious while the “educated” among us clutch their pearls and catch the vapors because they live amongst us “unclean” knuckle draggers. It just fucking sucks when something breaks and they need it repaired or replaced (or created for that matter) then the capitalist pigs have to swoop in with their uneducated/unclean opinions…we turn the wrenches that make the water/electric/cars go as they should…start the business that foster invention…grow the food so they may sit so piously in air conditioned rooms and type on hand held computers. You and me are clearly the problem…no longer considered the solution, that is until something breaks.

      • Don’t you think most Democrats when they say “socialism” are thinking Scandinavia not the Soviet Union?

        Why would anyone yearn for Pol Pot?

        There are plenty of billionaires in Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. Not very many homeless or prisoners tho.

        They have elections. An educated populace. Low crime rates. And every year those countries are judged to be the happiest in the world.

        I would suggest that for the vast majority of progressives that is the model they are trying to achieve as opposed of course to the Auschwitz you and your ilk long for.

        Do you see what I did there?

        • You assumed. And you called Me and Froze ilk. We’re not ilky at all, if you ask us.

        • D-rok, I honestly don’t know what democrats think sometimes. I try to be respectful of my brethren who look at the world differently than me, but as we see often times in the playpen, it can go to shit rather quickly. The former Viking lands are in rough shape these days…Sweden used to be bastion of progressive socialism…now it’s a crime ridden hellscape where gangs wield knives and they have unfortunately seen a surge in sexual assaults among their citizenry. Aside from the IKEA founder I’m not aware of many Nordic ne’er-do-wells…but, just like Granddaddy used to say, I’ll stick to the one that brung me…give me the good ole capitalist robber barons of yore…Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, Duke, Musk, Jobs, Welch, etc

          • If you think crime in Sweden is higher the. in the US I have beachfront property to show you in Hahira.

            And the age of the robber barons did not last for long. Nor was it pleasant. I’m guessing you don’t have any coal miners in your family tree.

            There is nothing wrong with capitalism but it must be tempered enough to have the appearance of fairness and opportunity for the next generation. The second it appears closed off, like an aristocracy, not only does it become less profitable, it becomes unstable and at risk to all types of bolsheviks and guillotines.

            My advice is to drop the pretense of intellectual or ideological purity and just think in terms of sustainability and quality of life.

            The time people look back fondly most upon is NOT the gilded age: its the 1950’s and up until the war fucked everything up. During those years the country was prosperous, capitalist and living under the policies of one of only two self-described liberals among American presidents.

            When that era ended we had 1 trillion in debt. Reagan era began and that has multiplied 37 times and find me fucking anyone who is content.

          • “My advice is to drop the pretense of intellectual or ideological purity and just think in terms of sustainability and quality of life.” THIS is where you and I agree…both sides of the political spectrum would be better served to do that…for those ill gotten statesmen to remember their constituency and allow for a better quality of life

          • How does this “draft” represent “most.”

            I, as an example, had never heard of these folks.

          • Do we need to vet most Democrats’ based on what you know or don’t know? Even for the Playpen that seems narrow. The Democrats in NYC literally voted for that gentleman.

          • My point remains: the vast majority of democrats envision a multicultural Scandinavia, not Castro, Pol Pot or Stalin. Isolated persons, groups, drafts and elections do not change that fact. Why the right insists that socialist policies like social security and medicare are literally soviet remains well beyond me.

    • Are you say redistribution, are you referring to the $4 trillion dollar tax cut that’s going to redistribute Medicaid, SNAP and other money to billionaires and corporations?

      • Thats the good kind of redistribution: steal from the poor, give to the rich. Its called “maga!”

        • The cruelty of the current Republican party and their voters is staggering. How can anyone justify taking Medicaid from poor sick people so the top 1% can get a tax cut?

          • Well, they do. And we struggle to beat them in elections in part because of people saying stupid shit like “taxing whiter neighborhoods.”

  5. Not to get all conspiracy theory, but if this information was located on his website, why is this only coming out after the Democratic primary?

    • You went all conspiracy theory. Who knows? Maybe the right wanted the boogeyman.

  6. IMHO, New Yorkers are a different breed to have this asshat represent their party for the mayoral race. People have left with the state of the city of NY in its current form. I can’t imagine the mass exodus if this guy gets elected mayor.

    • The most populous city in the US is damn near empty.

      Same with the 2nd and the 3rd.

      No one lives in any of them because libruls.

      Meanwhile, you can barely drive through Mississippi because its overrun with people looking to take advantage of centuries of conservative politics that have raised that great state to 50th in damn near everything!

      • I take offense to that Derek! Here in Louisiana, we pride ourselves on being dead last on the best states list. Mississippi can stay an #49 forever!

  8. It’s easy to write off one person like Mamdani as a card carrying member of the lunatic fringe. But I have to ask myself who votes for a guy like him and why? Unfortunately, folks like Adams and Cuomo are corrupt and incompetent in their own ways. Mamdani makes the extreme far left look palatable by comparison. On the extreme far right, our current administration embraces white nationalism, advocates for a ‘Christian’ theocracy and promotes hatred and bigotry towards anyone who isn’t white. Not content to go after criminals and lawbreakers, they’re now looking at ways to strip legal residents of their citizenship. Not exactly the “Prouder, Stronger, Better – Morning in America” that Ronald Reagan ran on. I’m glad I’m an old man.

    • I’m quarreling with the “whiter neighborhoods” thing here. I think its wrong, electoral poison nationally and for the future.

      The left has to be the one to lead on race and it needs to make clear that race is a false, made up, meaningless construct.

      I think the guy is letting down the cause of ending the “Reagan revolution” with that sort of rhetoric.

      Nothing good can come from it. Nothing.

      • I agree. I suppose the point I was trying to make is that I see nothing good coming from either side of the aisle these days. Our choices appear to be nothing good from liberal politicians or nothing good from conservative politicians. Two flavors of nothing good is not a choice. No wonder Elon wants to start a new party. I don’t like the guy but I understand where he’s coming from. Unfortunately, third parties don’t do well in America. You need to do what Trump did. Take over an existing party and run off the old guard.

        • Personally I preferred the country club types. At least they sometimes had shame. I would also note that the policies have not changed at all. The right has the same priorities they’ve always had:

          Serve the rich and fuck the rest.

          So I am not sure we are seeing a “new” party so much as an existing one with a cult of personality dragging that same old shit across the finishing line.

  9. BREAKING:

    “Socialist Distressed That Another Socialist Wants To Do Socialist Things”

    Film at 11

    The proponents of an ideology that reduces everything to the lowest common denominator in pursuit of “equity” continue to be shocked when one of their own shows the world what socialism is really about. A society that divides itself into oppressors and victims, then encourages the victims to eat their oppressors, very quickly runs out of oppressors. But the victims must still be fed, so you know where this inevitably leads. Every. Single. Time. Zohran Mamdani is just another data point on the path to socialist utopia. I think you are probably more upset that he exposed your rancid ideology for what it is, than you are that he said something you disagree with. If this nutbag actually gets elected, the only hope for NYC is gonna be Snake Plissken.

    • Capitalism has its historical excesses and abuses as well. Any literate person would be well aware of them.

      Capitalism is the best path to economic prosperity. That much is true. However, a rigid ideology that delinks the benefits of capitalism from the society at large will eventually meet with a starving and angry mob.

      So you can share that wealth so that the sons and daughters of laborers have a shot at those economic prizes themselves, should their efforts and talents allow, and demean any such process as socialism, or you can eventually perish.

      Up to you. I know which door shortsighted ignorant dumbfucks will choose tho:

      Heads in baskets.

      • Shorter reply from Derek:

        “You are right about everything you said, but I’m still smarter than you and you’re a big poopy-head!”

        FIFY

        • I am deeply sorry that you have an inability to form sentences and express an independent, mature thought. Sadly for you, this is a merits based culture and as such you will receive no trophy, reward or recognition for trying and profoundly failing.

          So why don’t you just quietly take the “L”… again?

    • If you’re making an infringement claim for the gop, I wouldn’t argue.

      Nor would the “rats” or the “blood poisoners” or even people from “shit hole countries.”

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